Been
07-14-2005, 11:49 PM
I don't want this to be an argument, please don't flame me. I just want other people's views.
A lot of people look down at 'guild hoppers', and I want to know why (well, read on to understand what I mean). I do NOT consider myself a guild hopper whatsoever, but isn't it fair to consider circumstances before naming someone? I'm going to give you a direct example of my experience. A couple months ago, I applied to you guys and after talking to Azayia, she told me she'd try to get me into raids when possible..but there was a waiting list. I thought, great! After waiting a little bit, I decided that you guys were more then likely not gonna need another hunter for awhile..so, before I go on, I ask this..At this point, I have waited a little while, what do I do at this point? Please understand I *COMPLETELY* understand, and am NOT whatsoever disagreeing with me having to wait. It's completely understandable and simple really, y'all didn't need another hunter at y'alls raids. So, at this point am I supposed to continue waiting for weeks to even months for a spot in a raid? I may be talkative and quite full of life at times, but I am not at all impatient. I figure, hey, it's been awhile..it's time to move on and try my luck somewhere else. Does that name me a sucker? Is that wrong? So, I did. I looked around for other guilds..after talking with a few other Guild Leaders and reading a few other charters, at this point I had heard a lot of good things about Punished..this was before the whole stage where they were called ninjas and exploiters. Anyway, I'd heard a lot of good things about Punished, I heard that they raided often and had some great people. I heard all this from an old friend, Murmur. What he did not tell me, though I did not specifically ask, was that raids were built up of mostly guildies, but many pickups (well, I wouldn't call them pickups since they went on every raid with us and were indeed really cool people)..this was something I didn't prefer, but I can deal with. So after talking with Murmur and hearing a lot of cool things, I decided, ok I have heard enough..then I spoke with Turk and got an invite to Punished. I enjoyed myself for awhile, and the truth is that 99% of them ARE awesome people and the whole thing about ninjas is actually a RUMOR..BUT after awhile, I started to see a couple sour apples that sort of ruined my gameplay. I hold to my word when I say I will not open my mouth and say who said what, but certain things built up to me having to leave. If I must be hated because I leave a guild where I do not feel comfortable and disagree completely with things they do to other people, then I guess it must be that way. I will NOT tolerate even one ugly attitude or someone who makes another person feel like total crap for personal benefit of maybe a good laugh. I have morals and I do not believe in that sort of thing. I consider myself a fair player and I want a guild that has consideration for other people. So was I wrong? It seems as though my leaving Punished has impacted guild leader's decisions in considering me as a viable recruit. With all that said, if I am still considered a person who is unable to commit to one thing, then I give up and quit this game. I do NOT find this to be fair at all, I pay for this game and will not put up with things as such that happened. I pay for this game for one reason, to have a good time. If I can't have a good time, why pay for it? Anyway, I didn't want this to become a personal matter, and it's not.
In Lamen's terms: Does jumping from one guild to another automatically give you this tag, or is the person allowed an explaination?
You see, getting back to me crying my eyes out and making this a personal matter, I am really down about not having luck with finding a guild. Should I really just look at one guild and not give 2nd thought to it? Even if they don't contact me for months? I am sorry, but this is still just a video game..I can't keep myself occupied for that long, especially after I have collected most of the blue gear I would ever need for my class. You tend to just lose interest in the game and waiting months for an application to be covered is just a tad unrealistic. I am not saying this is the case, that is where my next point comes in. How long IS a fair amount of time before moving on to another application to another guild? 1 day, 1 week, 1 month? Or is it up to the guild to indicate that I have been removed from possible recruitment due to the guild simply being full, then I move on? I am not directing this at any specific guild, but to all guilds in general. I am not flaming anyone, just ranting for the sake of understanding something that has apparently passed me by.
In Lamen's terms: How long should a person wait before applying to another guild? When should he come to the realization that current application is not going to pass and he should apply to another guild of interest?
Just some stuff I needed to say. Please try to first understand where I am coming from before you disagree with me if you must. Discuss or dispose, but please do not flame this thread.
-the Bean
A lot of people look down at 'guild hoppers', and I want to know why (well, read on to understand what I mean). I do NOT consider myself a guild hopper whatsoever, but isn't it fair to consider circumstances before naming someone? I'm going to give you a direct example of my experience. A couple months ago, I applied to you guys and after talking to Azayia, she told me she'd try to get me into raids when possible..but there was a waiting list. I thought, great! After waiting a little bit, I decided that you guys were more then likely not gonna need another hunter for awhile..so, before I go on, I ask this..At this point, I have waited a little while, what do I do at this point? Please understand I *COMPLETELY* understand, and am NOT whatsoever disagreeing with me having to wait. It's completely understandable and simple really, y'all didn't need another hunter at y'alls raids. So, at this point am I supposed to continue waiting for weeks to even months for a spot in a raid? I may be talkative and quite full of life at times, but I am not at all impatient. I figure, hey, it's been awhile..it's time to move on and try my luck somewhere else. Does that name me a sucker? Is that wrong? So, I did. I looked around for other guilds..after talking with a few other Guild Leaders and reading a few other charters, at this point I had heard a lot of good things about Punished..this was before the whole stage where they were called ninjas and exploiters. Anyway, I'd heard a lot of good things about Punished, I heard that they raided often and had some great people. I heard all this from an old friend, Murmur. What he did not tell me, though I did not specifically ask, was that raids were built up of mostly guildies, but many pickups (well, I wouldn't call them pickups since they went on every raid with us and were indeed really cool people)..this was something I didn't prefer, but I can deal with. So after talking with Murmur and hearing a lot of cool things, I decided, ok I have heard enough..then I spoke with Turk and got an invite to Punished. I enjoyed myself for awhile, and the truth is that 99% of them ARE awesome people and the whole thing about ninjas is actually a RUMOR..BUT after awhile, I started to see a couple sour apples that sort of ruined my gameplay. I hold to my word when I say I will not open my mouth and say who said what, but certain things built up to me having to leave. If I must be hated because I leave a guild where I do not feel comfortable and disagree completely with things they do to other people, then I guess it must be that way. I will NOT tolerate even one ugly attitude or someone who makes another person feel like total crap for personal benefit of maybe a good laugh. I have morals and I do not believe in that sort of thing. I consider myself a fair player and I want a guild that has consideration for other people. So was I wrong? It seems as though my leaving Punished has impacted guild leader's decisions in considering me as a viable recruit. With all that said, if I am still considered a person who is unable to commit to one thing, then I give up and quit this game. I do NOT find this to be fair at all, I pay for this game and will not put up with things as such that happened. I pay for this game for one reason, to have a good time. If I can't have a good time, why pay for it? Anyway, I didn't want this to become a personal matter, and it's not.
In Lamen's terms: Does jumping from one guild to another automatically give you this tag, or is the person allowed an explaination?
You see, getting back to me crying my eyes out and making this a personal matter, I am really down about not having luck with finding a guild. Should I really just look at one guild and not give 2nd thought to it? Even if they don't contact me for months? I am sorry, but this is still just a video game..I can't keep myself occupied for that long, especially after I have collected most of the blue gear I would ever need for my class. You tend to just lose interest in the game and waiting months for an application to be covered is just a tad unrealistic. I am not saying this is the case, that is where my next point comes in. How long IS a fair amount of time before moving on to another application to another guild? 1 day, 1 week, 1 month? Or is it up to the guild to indicate that I have been removed from possible recruitment due to the guild simply being full, then I move on? I am not directing this at any specific guild, but to all guilds in general. I am not flaming anyone, just ranting for the sake of understanding something that has apparently passed me by.
In Lamen's terms: How long should a person wait before applying to another guild? When should he come to the realization that current application is not going to pass and he should apply to another guild of interest?
Just some stuff I needed to say. Please try to first understand where I am coming from before you disagree with me if you must. Discuss or dispose, but please do not flame this thread.
-the Bean