Aion

[Seiga]

I'm just curious to see who's in for this MMO and if anyone has any feedback relating to the game.


~Seiga.

[Faticus]

WooHoo

[Drunklight]

its a Yes if i can find a way to buy it or get the client and buy it through someone

[Faticus]

Did you check the website i posted in the other post??

[SuchIsLife]

I'm in. Planning on playing a Cleric or a Sorcerer.

[Faticus]

Priest _cleric for me possibly, ill be happy with something ranged tho.

Please post what class you are interested in if yhes

[Seiga]

Sorcerer is what i'm planning on playing.


~Seiga.

[Morath]

Or at least pointed ear things. Anyways with that being said, who is interested in playing the beta / retail?

So far I'm probably going Sorcerer, haven't decided which side but I think Azoo wants to go Elyos. He hasn't decided on a class however. I know Tryst wants to go Spiritmaster and Fati wishes to be a Cleric.

Looks like we have ranged dmg + healer covered, probably will need templar / barbarian and still plenty of room for assassins and rangers. Who am I kidding, at this point you can pretty much pick what you want. Just be sure to tell us if you're going to participate in the Beta event on the 19th.

[Morath]

grr you posted this while I was playing TF2 mid-post! And if we have that much interest in ranged, screw it I'm going Gladiator.

[SuchIsLife]

I'm not sure how Aion is but in a lot of game Ranged has huge advantages over Melee and even more so in big groups.

Also if we don't have one by the time we start playing ill go Chanter. In my past experience in Korean grind games a good buffer is key.

[Kerthud]

a maybe from me.

[Drunklight]

saw that fati, never used that site, checking if theres any others i know or maybe someon i know goin to the US(plus, doesnt state anything there about the preorder participation?)



thinking about going templar, if not that a cleric, and if not that a sorc ;p... wanna bet ill end up a rogue?...

[Wanton]

Templar.


When are the beta servers up? I just got my key last night.

[Runihura]

I'm thinking about a cleric or a sorcerer and I also have my key and got the client downloaded a few days ago.

[Faticus]

Dark

I will send them an email when I get home from work about the beta to find out for you. I am not too concerned if I don't get to play that personally. I am going to have things going on over the next few weekends .

[Tryst]

Next Beta is Friday, June 19th.

[Crazyheal]

i will go pre order at least to be able to try beta out. No idea wat i'd play tho

[Coldwynd]

I'm interested enough to check it out...
Ranged DPS or Assassin is probably what I'd try.

[Elros]

ive seen just a few thingso n this game although id love ot try it out i dont want to buy or preorder just ot play that beta, esp if i hate it :(

elros

[Coldwynd]

Elros, you can always cancel the pre-order :D
I'll be doing that if it sucks :D

[Notabear]

Brittni and I are both playing Aion. The two big PvP hitters are Sorcerer and Ranger.

Ignore what anyone says about the China Beta. They aren't run by NCSoft and refuse to buy the patches so they're still in the prepatch botting phase.

Most likely I'll play Cleric.

[Slayne]

How is this different from any typical Chinese / Korean pretty MMO grind feast to have come out in the last few years?

[Ogmuk]

How is this different from any typical Chinese / Korean pretty MMO grind feast to have come out in the last few years?

Maybe having nothing else to play? :D

[Tryst]

It's not really, which is why I'm surprised this topic came up with any degree of seriousness.

[Faticus]

Every game is a grind in one way or another, its finding something thats new and exciting that you can take part in, with a good group of friends, that make it worth playing

[Coldwynd]

I think its more of a case of having nothing to play and hoping for something fun. WoW has been done to death for me :D. I'm just hoping for something fun (and some time to play it :P)

[Slayne]

Every game is a grind in one way or another, its finding something thats new and exciting that you can take part in, with a good group of friends, that make it worth playing

Which is why I asked what is different about this Asian grind feast compared to all the others. Nearly every Asian MMO has been the same thing, but with different graphics / locations.

[Ian]

I might give it a shot.

Completely off topic but i just noticed what your avatar is Morath : )

[Foxlarocks]

I assume there is a Warrior/tank like class?

Edit
WarriorFearsome and hulking, a Warrior's way is found more through brute force and great resilience than guile and trickery. However, do not be fooled into thinking Warriors are only brainless, or simple-minded.


Okay... so there is some sort of beta you say?

[oogly]

Yes there's beta for people who preorder, just preorder and if you don't like it cancel before release and you won't get billed.

[Frostbolt]

I'll try it. Is the beta really only 3 days?

[Morath]

Yeah it's unfortunately looking like the 'closed beta' is limited to weekends only. And not even every weekend. The next one starts on the 19th. And as for 'is this game going to be another grind-fest?' I dunno, I hope not but if it is.... I'll do something else!

Completely off topic but i just noticed what your avatar is Morath : )

Not enough people know about Arsis :(

[Notabear]

This isn't a grind fest.

Aion is aimed at quest based gameplay.


They're adding 3 new styles of dungeons as well.

The first is an arcade style instance, where you plan you strat differently in order to recieve different loot. You can pull an all dps speed run which will net you certain items or you can go all-party extermination where you full clear the place for an entirely different set of loot. Eac strat has advantages/disadvantages which will alter the final boss and thus, the loot.

The 2nd is a battle instance. In this instance, both factions enter the same Dreadgion and have to fight to defeat the captains. You'll have to decide how to deal with the opposing players and how to reach the final boss faster. Dying in here will allow you to retrieve your corpse from a set location within the instance. These are not the same as regular Dreadgions, which are floating fortressess and the rewards are different.

The 3rd is being called the battle-shugos instances. These are designed for people leveling still/rerolls. It is a heavy quest based instance to make leveing easier and less tedious. This is designed for casual players.

Beta officially begins on the 9th and anyone who got the preorders will get a beta access code. Game is slated for Sept release.

[Frostbolt]

If I preoder from game stop then I don't get charged until the game ships, correct?

[Runihura]

Ya that is normally how it has always worked for me from gamestop.

[Frostbolt]

Ya that is normally how it has always worked for me from gamestop.

I could have just read the line under the price that says
"Billing does not occur until shipment is processed."


Edit:
Got the key made an account and stuff, and the installer / patcher or whatever it is doesn't work. :/

Edit 2:
nm it's working now

[Ian]

Yeah it's unfortunately looking like the 'closed beta' is limited to weekends only. And not even every weekend. The next one starts on the 19th. And as for 'is this game going to be another grind-fest?' I dunno, I hope not but if it is.... I'll do something else!



Not enough people know about Arsis :(

I love Arsis, too bad he can't get anyone to stay in his band.

[Elros]

preordered through ebgames today and im downloading the client atm. so hopefully this game doesnt blow chunks and i have to cancel it =/

Elros

[Coldwynd]

I'm expecting reports in by Monday on how bad this game is :D

[Seiga]

Next question is... Asmodians or Elyos?

I vote Asmodians.


~Seiga.

[Frostbolt]

Next question is... Asmodians or Elyos?

I vote Asmodians.


~Seiga.

I, Frostbolt, second this motion.

[Runihura]

Whichever female characters look more sexy.

[Elros]

I, Frostbolt, second this motion.

and i third it

Elros

[Notabear]

The question is do you want to look like an angel or a burnt chicken?

[Morath]

Edit: I'm not a fan of Asmodians, but this weekend is Asmodian only, w/ a lvl 10 cap. Information courtesy of Azoo :P

[Faticus]

Doesn't matter to me, I just tape pictures in the middle of my screen to change the look of whom Im playing as.

It was really funny killing KT as Michael Jackson.

[Notabear]

And now that NCWest has dropped the non-disclosure agreement:

http://www.aionarmory.com/

Should help you people who haven't touched the beta.

[Kerthud]

So how is the game?

[Notabear]

Depends on who you ask. If they play on China Beta, then it sucks monkey balls. China doesn't allow NCSoft to run it and they refuse to buy patches, allows for a lot of botting.

Other than that, they use a combo string style of attacks. When you use a certain ability it unlocks other abilities that you can use in conjunction with the previous.

The flying combat is misleading, when you are airborne you are limited to a certain set of attacks, you have to land to access the rest of them. That's fine though, since you are only airborne for a set amount of time.

The armor is much more pleasing as well. Instead of the clown costume look, everything is paired well and blends with the older gear giving it a sense of evolution to it.

The gathering professions kind of suck. Not any worse than old school wow. The idea was to make it take effort and time to craft the best gear. If you want it faster, you have to PvP. Makes it more tempting to PvP while allowing non PvPers the chance to get nice gear as well, but rather requires a time investment than effort.

As your guild progresses, you are allowed certain perks. You can create or import your own guild crest and at a certain guild level, you can wear it on your shields. Sieges make a return from Lineage II and feature similar perks for guilds.

It isn't everyone's cup 'o tea, but with the dumbing down of wow I welcome this game. (Mounts at 20? 20% increased XP? Why the fuck do they even require people to level anymore? And totem bots? Come on now >.<)

Anyway, I enjoy it thoroughly. Still having trouble settling on a class >.<

[Aza]

I will probably not play beta, but I might play release if the beta goes well.

Do they allow the ` character in guild names?

[Faticus]

Not sure about the character Aya, but apparently you can upload a guild emblem to be displayed on your chars cloaks and shields

[Kerthud]

The combo system sounds cool, and ya i was refering to the english speaking beta. My extent in language goes shallow/skiping in spanish then moderate in french and deep in english.

Ni hao for chinese.

Any other reviews or footage is welcome =))

[Ogmuk]

Do they allow the ` character in guild names?

In all other newer MMO's (i.e. Vanguard, AoC and such) one petition was enough to get a GM to get it done. I don't expect it to be much of a problem in any game unless they have Blizzard's CS.

[Wanton]

What time do the servers go up? I noticed they had a small patch this morning available.

[Wanton]

Taken from AionSource.

The second Aion closed beta event kicks off this weekend Friday, June 19th (12:00 PM PT, 9:00 PM CEST, 8:00 PM BST) and ends Monday, June 22nd (12:00 PM PT, 9:00 PM CEST, 8:00 PM BST).

- Second server added to both North America and Europe! NEW!
- Elyos characters WILL be playable this beta, also 1-10! NEW!

[Aza]

MMOGamer interview with Aion Producer (http://www.mmogamer.com/06/17/2009/bridging-the-culture)

[Frostbolt]

I'm probably going to be a priest.

My character name will probably be Icecoldcoke.

[Seiga]

Ok, as far as beta goes. I'm going Asmodian on Seil Server.


~Seiga.

[Azou]

Ok, as far as beta goes. I'm going Asmodian on Seil Server.


~Seiga.But Morath wants to go Elyos so bad!

[Frostbolt]

Ok, as far as beta goes. I'm going Asmodian on Seil Server.


~Seiga.

Was that the first one that was on the list? I think that's the one I picked. Not sure.


My character name is actually Icecldcoke because of limits on how long the name can be. I got to level 7 on a priest, but I have an open house to go to so I'll be back on later.

The game wasn't really as amazing as people have been saying it was, but it was pretty decent.

[Wanton]

Zhaos the Warrior on the same server.

[Frostbolt]

Apparently I'm on Israphel or w/e it is. I might switch since I only played for like an hour..



Is the level cap at 10, or is 1-10 just what they want to focus test?

[Morath]

I'm Nymith on Seil as well :] Azii is playing Mangina.

[Aza]

So how is it?

[ferigord]

yeah, updates please.

[Runihura]

Its okay....sort of reminds me of guild wars in a way. To be honest its just another game...nothing to me really stands out.

Some interesting things, you get to socket your equipment with manastones. And so far I have been getting a shit ton of these off of random mobs. It is kind of like FF7.

There are some other things like stigma that I have no idea what to do with yet, I dont think we can use it atm. I will post some screen shots in a bit.

The game is really pretty.

[Seiga]

The game isn't going to blow you away by anymeans during this beta test. There isn't much PvP action yet as the level cap is set to 10.

The quests seem very story driven, as a typical Asian game would be. There are some pretty nice cinematic sequences which I took via FRAPS.

There isn't much to really say until they open up all the fortresses for attack. There are only 2 means of PvP at the moment which are through duels or enter the arena for a FFA Battle. So, we'll see, but again, too early to tell.

For those that have a beta key, I did create Da`Kor on Asmodian/Seil for the weekend.


~Seiga.

[Runihura]

Whats your name?

[Seiga]

Seiga.

[Elros]

im Elras a scout on the asm/siel server

Elros

[Runihura]

Don't you like the whiny ass anime voices they have for the characters.

[Aza]

How does PvP work in the game? Also, the PvPvE they talk about?

[Runihura]

I was gonna post some pics but I have to reformat them it says they are too large ><.

[Frostbolt]

This is one of the 500,000 cinematics.
In this one my character is getting wtfpwnd.
http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g301/icecoldcoke234/AION/Aion0020-1.jpg

[Morath]

How does PvP work in the game? Also, the PvPvE they talk about?

This round of beta testing seemed primarily to level a character to the point where they can 'ascend' to one of two choices. Warrior to Templar / Gladiator for instance. Since we're capped at level 10 (of 50 I think), the only PvP going on is duels and an FFA arena in the main city as Tenseiga said before.

And PvP is as you would expect at level 10, very basic :P

Flight seems interesting so far, some really quirky default controls that work just fine when you rebind them. My only complaint in that department is the lengthy time it takes to regen your flight meter (which gives you a full minute of flight before plummeting to the earth if you're not careful).

To sum it all up, we need to be able to level further to get a decent grasp of the way PvP is going to work.

[Seiga]

Flight seems interesting so far, some really quirky default controls that work just fine when you rebind them. My only complaint in that department is the lengthy time it takes to regen your flight meter (which gives you a full minute of flight before plummeting to the earth if you're not careful).



Supposedly there will be some items you will eventually get that can augment flight as there is a slot for your wings.

And again, as far as the PvPvE is concerned, it's still early beta and there's a lot of testing that remains. Really can't wait to try out the Abyss when it is released into Beta.


~Seiga.

[Runihura]

Not sure if this is legit but at one of the item vendors you can buy return scrolls for the various fortresses thus allowing you access to them. If anyone wants to check out some other scenery which is what I'm doing.

[Seiga]

Footage from Aion:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8-XP9KEoW4


Basically this was the Class Change Quest in which I can go into one of the 2 archtypes that the mage has, Sorcerer and Spiritmaster.



~Seiga.

[oogly]

From what I have been reading about PVP, it's going to a pvp game, your going to be forced into it. At level 20+ zones there are these random portals called "rifts" that open every 2 hrs in game time and they stay open until 30-40 people have used them to venture into the enemy lvl 20+ zone. They will have these rifts in all areas lvl 20+. So basically there will be enemy incursions while your lvling in 20+ zones.

There will be a anti-lowble ganking system in place. If you kill someone low level, you will get flagged on the map for everyone to see. And the more kills of lowbies you do, your stats will go down until you die.

You will need to PVP to earn Abyss points which is used to buy items.

So far the game is fun, something different from wow. Feels like a cross between FFXI and WOW and UO.

Crafting actually means something in this game, you can craft the best items in game and money will be useful. The only problem from what I read about the servers in China is that they are filled with bots. They regulated them in the beginning but then stopped doing so. I guess it's all about the money. If you have more people paying for the game that are bots your not going to do anything about them. But Aion in China is like WOW in China, it's run by a 3rd party and they are way behind in patches. Also in China they do not need to buy the retail box, all they do is download the game and buy time cards. Time cards are not month to month, but it's based on minutes. So it's not a big lost if they get caught while botting, speed hacking, etc.

Another thing I also noticed is that legions(guilds) have a maximum player count of 30. And I see that you can also lvl up your legion like in AOC & WAR & EQ 2 to get extra stats.

I am playing a sorcerer atm, been a melee all my life in other games, time to try something new. My brother is playing a ranger, and he's enjoying it. Will need be able to play to a higher lvl to see if I really want to stick to it.

Next test will be on the July 4th weekend, its going to be a 4 day test with a lvl cap of 20. And two weeks after that the cap's going to be lvl 25.

[Seiga]

So basically, for the time being, we can only allow mains when we start up the game depending on the numbers we get for the guild due to the 30 member maximum at level 1.

After the next 2 beta tests, we should have an idea of what we will do about this game, knowing what server type we should be on, etc.


~Seiga.

[Notabear]

Incorrect on the pvp.

Those portals lead to the abyss. Said portals have quests associated with them. Both factions receive the quest. So both factions will utilize the portals. The PvP happens inside the abyss.

PvP is not required at any point within the game, although it is encouraged.

You are correct on the crafting. It does take awfully long to craft gear, but that's because it is intended for non-PvPers. If you PvP you can easily obtain the best gear. If you don't you'll have to craft it which takes a lot of time to balance the effort you put into PvP.

There is a dungeon being introduced that combines both factions and the invasion of the fortress. Kind of like a race to the end. Unknown how these will pan out as they aren't implemented yet.

You did pick a good choice with the sorcerer. Aside from Rangers they are the best in PvP atm.

[Frostbolt]

So what you're saying is it's more of a PVP based game than PVE?

[Notabear]

Its a PvPvE game. You hate them, they hate you, you both hate the 3rd group. PvP basically drives the lore of the story whereas the PvE aspect of the game focuses on War Support, if that makes sense to you,

[Morath]

So pissed the next beta is on July 4th :|

I'm going to the appalachian mountains (sp?) that weekend to go hiking.

[Drunklight]

if ya wont be playing that weekend lemme try it ;p got it installed but didnt bum anyone's account this weekend to see how it is ;p

[Wanton]

My impressions after leveling three different classes to 10 are mild. It's an 'ok' game with some interesting concepts that just aren't utilized enough and aren't really done in enough depth to make the game different.

Itemization - Item choices are poor and very uncreative. Every vendor and world drop was very cookie cutter with very low selection. Your class will be tied to 2 or 3 weapon choices and there is no same-level diversity between items. I'll detail that a bit further in my post.

Quests - The quests are poorly written/translated and require a ton of back tracking. In the newbie area alone, you will run back and forth at least TEN times between one quest giver to the next(or prior). You will have to run these until you have more money but until then, you get to spend an awesome five minutes each way, running back to the start of the zone and then back out to your quest area.

Travel -Traveling costs are *extremely* high. A flight to the 'next area' could roughly cost you 40% of your total savings. Even small teleportation devices (from one side of the city to the other) make a nice dent in your wallet.

Dying - You have to pay money (konah) to bind at local binding stones just about everywhere you go. These bindings aren't cheap either so make sure you choose wisely. Also, upon dying you are left with a "Soul" something effect. That basically makes your character a limp Vendrix until you pay a near-by NPC even more gold to restore your health. While some might see this as the 'risk' factor of dying. I find paying gold instead of XP loss should be optional. If you decide to opt out of paying the gold, you'll notice your character loses the ability to walk normally and will waddle around at about 25% movement speed. Within 15 seconds you will get pissed off enough to waddle back to the NPC and bend over to pay the charges to remove the effect.

Flying - I thought this would be the bread of the butter of the game. I was very wrong. At level 10, I was able to complete a quest and use my wings! I shot through the air and dipped and dove until I get huge flashing red warning across my screen that read "You are about to run out of flight time". I checked my watch, I had been flying for less than a minute, but being spoiled by the WoW parachute, I didn't care. Well, at the one minute marker, my wings disappeared and I fell 6000ft to my hot death. After paying my konah so I could leave the world of the paraplegics, I took off again to complete a simple quest that involved flying to kill 6 NPCs. The flight lasts long enough to kill two, then forces you to land and recharge your wings (that's what I was calling it), for nearly 5 minutes, so I could take off to kill two more. After that, flying basically became a method to glide off high obstacles or super-jump over packs of NPCs.

Class:

Warrior/Templar: Probably my choice class. It felt like it had less downtime but the DPS output actually causes this character to kill (and level) slower than the other classes I tried. With a group, I could see the class being entertaining to play but will definitely struggle in a solo environment. I'd like to see how a Gladiator felt about their class as I noticed that they got to wear plate as well AND use a polearm. Templars are able to switch between 2H or sword/board combo, which they can do mid-fight, if needed. Weapon choices are very small for the warrior. You could use a sword or a mace and from what I observed, the sword had lower DPS but higher crit rates (PvP?) and the maces had higher consistent DPS but much lower crit rates. No axes, no dual wield, no diversity between the items themselves. There are two swords in the entire game between level 1-10 and everyone can buy them at a vendor. I felt so unique.

Mage/Sorcerer: I absolutely hated the class at first. Starting with two spells, and one being a 2min CD root, was very uninvolved. While being able to two-shot just about any even-level mobbed, I found myself below 20% mana for the majority of the time. And let me tell you about the mana regen in Aion. Remember EQ? Remember EQ before Kunark? Yeah, it's like that. Except there's no book to look at to 'speed' things up. On my Warrior I was able to spend my money on new gear but on my sorcerer, I decided against that and spent all my money on stat food and mana potions. Without the mana potions, I would have slowly gone insane as I waited nearly 10 minutes to get to full mana. After awhile, the class gets some more spells that can diversify game play some. The basic strategies are there though as the class can root, snare, knockback/down, and mez. It seems like an OP'd cannon but I think it's fairly balanced with how fragile the class is.

[Vittra]

So pissed the next beta is on July 4th :|

I'm going to the appalachian mountains (sp?) that weekend to go hiking.

Yeah i'd be raged too, going outside and doing some stuff instead of being a nerd at home playing a beta game.

FEG :o

[Kerthud]

So pissed the next beta is on July 4th :|

I'm going to the appalachian mountains (sp?) that weekend to go hiking.

Going to the appalachian mountains > then a beta event imo.
Even though beta event > than hiking.

Both sound like great things for the 4th of july.

[Notabear]

Wait until you get into the 20-30 bracket. Your toon starts to flesh out quite a bit at that point. The really good shit is from PvP and is available for many different levels or you could craft them and be finished with your lvl 30 gear by the time you hit 50.

[SuchIsLife]

got my pre-order i think i heard the next beta event is the 2nd? i should get my new computer just in time for that.

[Frostbolt]

got my pre-order i think i heard the next beta event is the 2nd? i should get my new computer just in time for that.

Closed Beta Event #3 - July 2-July 6, Focus: Asmodian levels 1-20
Closed Beta Event #4 - July 17-July 20 Focus: Elyos and Asmodian levels 1-25
Closed Beta Event #5 - July 31-August 3 Focus: TBD
Closed Beta Event #6 - August 14-August 17 Focus: TBD

[Morath]

Just wish the beta was off the weekend I'm hiking XD

[Notabear]

More updates.

Healing is static. Unlike WoW, your heals are based on your level. So getting better gear does not effect your actual healing, but rather your DPS or your survivability. For PvP, the emphasis is on HP gear. A Cleric can easily take down a Templar, Assassin, & Sorcerer without a break in between. Skill is a large part of the healing in this game. Heals do not Crit, nor do they scale beyond level.


PvP weapons all feature +10% Dmg to PC.

Titles have stat bonuses associated with them as seen here (http://www.aionsource.com/forum/general-guides/17963-titles.html).

Straffing isn't 100% speed. I believe it is 80% or so. Angled is less, back angled is even less, backpeddling is the worst.

[Tezrul]

kinda late to join the thread but I am interested in this game. currently leaning towards cleric, maybe chanter.

[Aza]

kinda late to join the thread but I am interested in this game. currently leaning towards cleric, maybe chanter.

What is the difference between the two? When I see "chanter" I think of enchanter from EQ and crowd control but I am guessing that is not the case here.

[Frostbolt]

What is the difference between the two? When I see "chanter" I think of enchanter from EQ and crowd control but I am guessing that is not the case here.

Chanter has lots of group buffs and is more of a melee fighter than a caster. They can also heal but not as well as a cleric. I believe they use 2H staves.

Cleric is a really powerful healer, and relies on casting spells to deal damage instead of melee. They use a 1h mace + shield, and I believe they even wear plate armor.

But I'm not an expert on the game or anything so I'm sure someone has a better explaination. :P

[Tryst]

Both chanters and clerics wear chain and can use either mace/shield or staff. Clerics have the big single target heal. Chanters have auras and heal more using hots. While I can see chanters being able to heal perfectly well while leveling, I suspect they won't be able to main heal in raid type situations, their single target healing just falls behind.

[Elros]

so its like a dedicated healer and a healer hybrid/buff bot

Elros

[SuchIsLife]

More updates.

Healing is static. Unlike WoW, your heals are based on your level. So getting better gear does not effect your actual healing, but rather your DPS or your survivability. For PvP, the emphasis is on HP gear. A Cleric can easily take down a Templar, Assassin, & Sorcerer without a break in between. Skill is a large part of the healing in this game. Heals do not Crit, nor do they scale beyond level.


PvP weapons all feature +10% Dmg to PC.

Titles have stat bonuses associated with them as seen here (http://www.aionsource.com/forum/general-guides/17963-titles.html).

Straffing isn't 100% speed. I believe it is 80% or so. Angled is less, back angled is even less, backpeddling is the worst.

pls tell me they made the same mistake they did in lineage 2. They actually put in a % based heal for the actual purpose of healing tanks but all buffs and heals were able to be force cast on mobs. I will forever be known as that damn bishop who got off 2 30% heals on the hardest raid boss in the game.

[Notabear]

I wouldn't call it a mistake. I PREFER the static healing element. But essentially, yes, they took what worked in L2 and carried it over.

Also, both Clerics and Chanters can level just fine. Clerics use casting spells to DPS and Chanters use Melee. Clerics are main healers while Chanters are secondary and buffs. Clerics are actually OP atm, they don't even need groups for anything, so they've been tweaking them a bit to bring them in line.

[Elros]

Clerics are actually OP atm, they don't even need groups for anything, so they've been tweaking them a bit to bring them in line.

yea shrewd was on his lvl 10 cleric and soloing 16-17 lvl mobs

Elros

[Seiga]

yea shrewd was on his lvl 10 cleric and soloing 16-17 lvl mobs

Elros

He never solo'd any of them. He had Sersay tank them, and me with dps.


~Seiga.

[Elros]

nah i logged on sunday and neither u nor sersay were on and he was killing some of them

Elros

[Faticus]

Have we decided on a faction yet? Or are peopel going both ways?

[Notabear]

I believe we'll end up going both factions.

[Elros]

I believe we'll end up going both factions.

id like us to pick/vote on one then we can just roll random goof off alts on the other side. but would like to have one side to focus on

Elros

[Aza]

I'm sure we'll pick a main faction and then have a secondary faction as an alt server I would guess.

[Faticus]

Guess we should have a poll to see what people want to play. Personally I don't care, seeing as how you can be the class you want regardless.

[sychotix]

I'd play if it was free, or at least there was a trial. I don't like buying games that I don't know i'll like =/

[Seiga]

I think once we figure out the faction, we'll need to find a server. I'm still unsure on what the server types they will have upon release, however, I do know they will have 12 North American Servers when the game is released.

Here is the listed lords/servers:

Ariel
Seil
Nezakan
Baizel
Kaithiel
Ustheil
Asphel
Israphel
Jikel
Triniel
Lumiel
Markutan


The Seraphim: Lords of the Elyos


Ariel the Lady of Light

In the past days of the twelve lords, Ariel was the ruler of theSouth. She is now the leader of the five Seraphim lords. Known to bethoughtful and compassionate, the full powers of Ariel are not as wellunderstood as those of the other lords.




Siel the Lady of Time

Siel was the ruler of the East and a guardian of Aion. To end theMillenium War, Siel agreed to a peace treaty with the Drakens. When theBalaur betrayed the agreement and instead launched an attack, sherealized the horror of her mistake. Blaming her own naivety, Sielsacrificed herself to prevent the complete annihilation of Atreia.



Nezakan the Lord of Justice

Nezakan is one of the Seraphim Lords worshiped by the Elyos and isthe protector of Templars and Gladiators. Serious and decisive, Nezakanis loyal to Ariel and rarely voices complaints. He is resilient bothphysically and mentally. Nezakan's symbol is his trusted shield"Aegis".



Baizel the Lord of Freedom

A Seraphim Lord and the protector of Rangers and Assassins. AlthoughBaizel is often seen as care-free and mischievous, he is far moreprecise and practical than he appears. A prodigy of the bow and amaster of disguise, he rarely limits himself to Elysium and enjoyswandering and observing the world in alternate forms.



Kaithiel the Lady of Illusion

A Seraphim Lord and protector of Sorcerors and Spiritmasters, theother Lords often find Kaithiel's gloomy and closed natureuncomfortable. Her mastery of aether allows her to summon it in anyform she wishes. During the First Great War she suffered a loss againstthe Shedim Lord Lumiel and has never fully recovered from thehumiliation.



Usthiel the Lady of Life

A Seraphim Lord and the protector of Clerics and Chanters. Usthielsees the value in all lives whether they be enemies or kinsmen. She istroubled by the divide of Atreia and longs for the olden days of unity.




The Shedim: Lords of the Asmodians


Asphel the Lord of Darkness

In the past days of the twelve lords, Asphel was the ruler of theNorth. He is now the leader of the five Shedim Lords. Meticulous andstern, Asphel believes that Ariel's weakness was the cause of theCataclysm that split the world in two. His glacial façade presents anaura of impenetrable strength.



Israphel the Lord of Space

Israphel was the ruler of the West and a guardian of Aion. he wasthe first to suggest a peace treaty with the Drakens and wasresponsible in convincing Siel to pass forward the motion. During theCataclysm, Israphel helped halt Atreia's annihilation and died alongwith Siel.



Jikel the Lord of Destruction

Jikel is one of the Shedim Lords worshiped amongst the Asmodians andhe is the protector of Gladiators and Templars. While he is able withall weapons, his skills with the sword are especially renowned. Proudand passionate, he often allows his temper to take control, instillingfear in all that surround him. His execution of Nezakan's closestconfidante Deltras was the catalyst for the First Great War.


Triniel the Lady of Death

A Shedim Lord and the protector of Rangers and Assassins, Trinielhas an unparalleled ability to maintain her composure in any situation.Her strength is in finding and manipulating her opponents' weaknesseswith finesse, and most importantly, striking without mercy when thetime is right.



Lumiel the Lady of Wisdom

A Shedim Lord and the protector of Sorcerors and Spiritmasters.Lumiel's insatiable curiosity lead her to deep studies of aether and,consequently, her great ability in magic. In the olden days of thetwelve lords she held a close friendship with Ariel which has sincebeen lost.




Markutan the Lord of Fate

A Shedim Lord and the protector of Clerics and Chanters, Markutanwas close friends with Siel and has trouble seeing eye-to-eye with theLord of Destruction, Jikel. He is always respectful but expressionless,and his large physique lends itself to his powerful presence.

Retrieved from http://www.aionsource.com/wiki/Empyrean_Lords



~Seiga.

[Notabear]

Before we go picking servers, we should establish a timezone to work with.

It seems like these servers are going to be like L2. Server 1 will be overcrowded, servers 2 and 3 will be likely highly crowded but highly competitive.

Still say we need to figure out what timezone we'll be geared towards. That makes or breaks people's chances at playing together.

[Hyper]

Hey, sorry I haven't posted yet. As far as AION, just tell me what server and what side. I'll likely be playing a ranger, and my wife will likely be playing either cleric or Chanter.

[Slayne]

Hey, sorry I haven't posted yet. As far as AION, just tell me what server and what side. I'll likely be playing a ranger, and my wife will likely be playing either cleric or Chanter.

You back yet?

[Hyper]

Not yet, still a few weeks left to go. I can't wait to come back though. So much has happened sense I left. Plus I got the CE of AION, so my wife is already playing and says it's great. I got the CE for the sweet ass wings, which is the big thing driving me to the game, I mean seriously, we get F'ing wings. Plus having a ranger class, which has always been my fav. in games. Soon enough though I'll be back, just tell me what server/side you're on, and I'm ready to pwn face. Being an old DAoC player, the void really excites me :).

[SuchIsLife]

What beta server should i join now that i finally have a few days off.

[Faticus]

siel,,, theres only 2, a bunch of us are playing asmodian atm

[Drunklight]

im there but i played on the other server couse... cant remember who told me their thhere... cant find anyone

[Faticus]

well the server is down now, but we are playing, my char name is fati, tens is on seiga

[Aza]

How did the July 4th beta weekend end up going?

[Seiga]

Not too bad. Seems as you get closer to 20, you find out doing some of the campaign quests require a group to run through it. At 20, you end up in a new zone, in which the opposing faction can invade. I got to participate in some decent battles. So far leveling doesn't seem like a big grind.


~Seiga.

[Faticus]

I only hit 19, so i wasn't able to attain all the available skills for the Templar but all in all it was a fun experience. Templar is basically the tanking class and altho can't put out a huge amoiunt of damage, I am very hard to kill. Looking down the skill tree, my interrupts are going to wreak havoc on casters/healers. THe game's combo system in the templars case basically gives me the choice of doing something offensive or defensive( shield or do an extra attack). But like i said Its still only lvl 19 so I am sure down the road more abilities/combos will make things more interesting. I was able to duel a bit as well, and I won my fair share of matches but when going against healers and not being a huge damage dealer it makes it just a long drawn out fight. I however dont plan on doing solo pvp so it doesnt really bother me. Most of the peopel I dueled were lvl 20 and in this game a level difference can be huge. I believe it was that way in WoW but its even more pertinent in Aion. Solo questing is a bit rough as the tanking class as well because as you get to higher level areas, the mobs like to do there running away bull, so with me not doing huge burst, its likely i end up getting more then one mob at a time unless I pull them all the way out which always isnt an option

[Morath]

Seems as you get closer to 20, you find out doing some of the campaign quests require a group to run through it

This I noticed as well, probably moreso being a gladiator. I wish I had gotten to 20 but I came down with a nasty cold so I'm just taking it easy right now. I'm not a huge fan of 'needing' to party up to do basic quests though, that is my only real complaint.

[oogly]

Didn't play much this weekend, only got to 18 on my assassin. They're very under powered compared to other classes at lower lvls, but they start to come together at 25+.

[Hyper]

OK, sense I can't play the beta over here, just a quick question for those who have. I can't find info on any way of customizing your play style. The closest thing I found were stigma's. I'm hoping there's more though. If I can't customize how I play, I don't know if I'll stick with it.

[oogly]

You can customize your looks, but as far as play, there ain't any talent trees like in wow, and stigmas, will people will go for the best cookie cutter ones.

[Wanton]

Only got to play Thursday/Friday myself and I leveled a new Templar to Lv16. What's concerning is how many aesthetic errors that are still present. Misspelled words, coding errors, and quest dialog that was ran through some primitive translator. Even the NCSoft logo looks like a polished watermark that they added after the fact. If they're going to badge this game as their new title, they can at least but *some* work into it and not give us a straight Korean rip off.

What Oogly said concerns me; 8 classes, all the same generic builds, shortens the lifespan of this game exponentially. Also, another PvE limiting factor is the games AI system. From what I've seen, it has me highly doubt any type of dynamic scenarios that will actually involve any other strategy than a tank and spank. Before those cry foul with "It's a PvPvE game", remember another MMO title by the name of Warhammer that tried to push the sole PvP concept? Yeah, exactly.

It's a great time burner if you're bored to death with WoW. I'd recommend it for that and that alone. Maybe on the next event viewing, I'll be bored enough to hit the the level cap. Sadly enough, I probably will be.

[Faticus]

8 classes with not much varirty in spec to me means better balance. Not saying you won't have issues in 1v1 match ups but in comparison to WoW, I think this game will be much more balanced. WIth multiple specs you have people looking for the flaws in the system and exploiting them. Not saying you wont have that with 8 classes but If they do any sort of upkeep on the game, hopefully that is something they will rectify.

Load times are at a minimum. Other then starting the game up, it rarely takes more then 3 sec for me to zone somewhere, assuming there is even somewhere to load. At level 20, you probably have more beneficial skills/abilities then you ever have in warhammer. And from what I have seen there is very little aoe, so people ffing and assisting will be very important in this game

[Notabear]

Pretty sure Cleric is overly OP. Never have to stop for any reason, never have to worry about getting ganked and not being prepared, never have to worry about pulling multiple mobs, never have to worry about people ganging up on you. 2 stuns by lvl 10 and one that isn't even on a CD.

Your templar stands no chance.

As far as the aesthetics, there are a few. However, these are actually further along than the China OBT. In that release, water was glitched, everything was misspelled and words were cut off mid quests description, many mobs and nodes were inside of the ground, etc.

These CBTs are being done with an older release. Newer than COBT but older than KLive. You'll be seeing v 3.1 (Or if you know of it through K terms, v7). Most of these translations are rough drafts, and as such, most of the coding effecting texts are incomplete. There's a few graphical anomalies that are present, but those issues were fixed with the release patch in Korea.

[Faticus]

Never said Cleric isnt OP at least for level 20. As we level up I can see things leveling out more especially when i get more stuns. But Templar was never meant for solo pvp, I am there to fuck with casters so other people have an easier time. If i didnt plan on group pvping, I wouldnt even bother playing

[Tezrul]

I have not played any beta events yet, but I wanted to just make a comment about an observation I have made about my ability to enjoy a game.

I find that it doesn't really matter what game you are playing at all, it's more who you play with. I'm not sure if I will get the chance to play any beta events before it comes out, but if you guys are still going to play then I will be happy to give it a go.

Keep sharing your updates though.

[Vendrix]

My ability to enjoy any beta is defined as such...

WoW / DAoC - Game not 100% complete, still lots of room to make fixes and/or changes to classes, NPCs and world. Developers take feedback which is applied to future beta patches, game clearly evolves as time goes on.

AO / AoC - Developers consider the game to be done - gold status and ready to be burned onto CDs. People in beta are only there for stress testing and hopefully to tell their friends how cool the game is so they buy it. All feedback is ignored, game releases too early.

[Aza]

Is the collector's edition worthwhile at all?

I've usually been disappointed with CEs, so I am guessing no. But I don't know if those wings are that useful or not.

Link to Aion Collector's Edition description (http://www.aiononline.com/us/collectorsedition/)

[Ogmuk]

My ability to enjoy any beta is defined as such...

WoW / DAoC - Game not 100% complete, still lots of room to make fixes and/or changes to classes, NPCs and world. Developers take feedback which is applied to future beta patches, game clearly evolves as time goes on.

AO / AoC - Developers consider the game to be done - gold status and ready to be burned onto CDs. People in beta are only there for stress testing and hopefully to tell their friends how cool the game is so they buy it. All feedback is ignored, game releases too early.

I agree mostly but WoW should be in the AO/AoC tier and EQ should be with DAoC. The WoW beta was probably as large as EQ's was except I experienced no response from the developers whatsoever. In EQ you would even be able to speak directly to the devs, even had John Smedley helping me out once with bugged characters. Although the quality of the product (WoW beta) was good for a beta, the communication between devs and players wasn't, in my opinion.

[Drunklight]

there's a wing vendor at main city, i belive it was 800k for a lvl30 wings that give... 20 or 30 extra flight seconds
and lvl 40 wings that gave 40 or 60 extra flight seconds, they cost close to 13mil gold, now until we to that we dont know how much gold will be hard to get ;p

the wings you get from collectors edition are... dont remember how long but they are lvl 30, dont remember how much they add, i think they comperable to the lvl 40

[Elros]

Is the collector's edition worthwhile at all?

I've usually been disappointed with CEs, so I am guessing no. But I don't know if those wings are that useful or not.

Link to Aion Collector's Edition description (http://www.aiononline.com/us/collectorsedition/)

yes but the game is 15 bucks a month and with the CE u get a free month so basically the CE costs like 5 bucks

Elros

[Aza]

Oh, I thought the regular game came with a month too.

[Drunklight]

from NCstore
Includes:
A serial code for account creation.
Access to the full Aion® game via downloadable client.
30 days of game time. Activation with a valid credit card or game time card is required.
Prepurchase bonus: Prepurchase now and get an additional 7 days of game time, access to the beta events, additional in-game items and more. For details, see below.


ie, regular edition includes 30days time, 37 actually, so does collectors, although buying from there you dont geta box with all the crappy stuff ;p

[Aza]

IGN Aion Preview (http://pc.ign.com/articles/100/1005320p1.html)

[Tezrul]

so I got myself a new computer and pre-ordered AION. I will be around for friday, parts of sunday and monday.

what do I need to know for servers/faction? are characters reset each event?

[Seiga]

We are on Siel server/Asmodians. Thus far there is no character reset. However, I believe they will reset when Open Beta starts.

BTW, I would just recommend getting the pre-order through Steam and then registering that key with NCSoft. Seems to be 10x faster, and you don't have to deal with the hassle of getting up to pick up the game on release. Steam had issues earlier this week with not enough product keys, but NCSoft released a bunch to them for the collector's edition. Not only that, I believe I didn't have to pay any taxes with the online purchase. Basically you can register your collector's key when the servers open. Billing Cycle for the month to month doesn't credit the card until October 29th.


~Seiga.

[Faticus]

I ordered mine directly from NCSoft. I had already downloaded the Application and right after I registered my account I was able to access the game. I also paid with paypal, not sure if that makes a difference in terms of delay.

Tez ill be in vent prolly later tonight playing SC if you have questions

[Tezrul]

what are the leveling speeds of each class? and can I expect to cap out in a couple days?

originally I was thinking of trying a healer? is it painfully slow to level? otherwise i'd pick a faster leveling class for beta just to get a taste of everything

[Aza]

I'm planning on playing this weekend as well, but will be starting from level 1.

[Faticus]

well from level 1-10 its pretty even. Relatively fast to level but because you are not accustomed to the game format it will take some time. 11-15 is where u start to see a difference in ur class and at lvl 10 you get to choose ur path. SO like warrior chooses templar or glad. Alot of your time is spent running around for the quests and in the high teens, you really need to be in groups to do the quests with elite mobs. Some cases its just easier to grind mobs, but chain quests lead to some decent items. I can always let you try my templar, know some other people rolled other classes not sure if they are willing to lend info.

Clerics are pretty OP overall atm, they dont do as much damage as other classes but because you can heal, you have much less down time.( In this game you sit to recoop health) or you need to use bandages/potions

[Tezrul]

guessing you guys don't use fati's vent? anyways i'm in there now.

[Racthalas]

Hey guys!

Hope all of y'all are doing well! I've been visiting the site every now and then to see what trouble you guys are getting into these days =)

After a 2 year hiatus from MMOs, I think I finally have some free time to play again! and honestly, it feels like it's been way too long. I've pre-ordered AION from NCsoft, so I'm waiting on the open beta to check it out!

I hope there are still some people on here that remember who I am =) it'd be great to catch up, and meet all the new additions to DaKor also !


` Rac

[Falconfyre]

heya, i am sure my name is foregin to most people here not associated with aoc but i have been around a very very long time.

anduril and i have been playing in the beta and have been enjoying ourselves.

gathering .. you have two forms of gathering; plants, fish, stone, metal, crystal, etc are one type. the other is called aether and it is in the sky under a different gathering tier. most items mid range and up require both. BUY A GATHERING HAT !!

flying. there are two types of "flight" both are heavily restricted. you can actively FLY for a shrt peroid of time or you can use the space bar and double your airbourne time by GLIDING. once your time is up, you loose your wings and you fall and die (however the abyss..read pvp zone ... has different rules)

leveling. well your looking at a relatively quick first 20 or so levels. rogues are repoted to have leveled fastet in both nc versions and chinese versions but really guys ... is that a suprise to anyone .. after 20's it slows down quite a bit and you will have to intersperse questing with grinding. three classes are competent soloists that have the best success against elites, sorcerers, rangers and rogues. HOWEVER if your going to duo gladiator/cleric OR rogue/chanter are deemed the most efficient

movement bonuses. this part is very much like conan, back is increased defensive, side strafing is increased avoidance, and forward is increased attack. there are also typically bonuses for casting/meleeing in flight mode.

balance. will casters rule the roost? most say nay. for a sorcerer to take on a templar or gladator, they have to attack unseen and land every hit unmitigated. for a rogue to "stunlock and rip" his oponent apart is possible, but again if he is lucky with strikes and approaching unseen. attack a gladiator or templar or cleric that knows you are comming, well neither rogue nor sorcerer is going to have a high degree of success. there are chat filters that allow you to SEE ENEMY BUFFING AND CASTING so the chances of people catching you unawares is up to you and your attention span.

crafting. think eq. you can crit and make really great items. you can fail a gather or combine and loose everything. comparing current crafted items against pve ... crafted comes out on top. crafted vs pvp(abyss) pvp comes out on top.

bots in the new versions and hacks. i do surf the hacker boards regularly. i want to know what i am up against and i judge a game by the number of hacks and bots publically available for non linux and to the "casual" player consumption. i am relatively comfortable with what i have seen so far. there is a distinct LACK of working hacks atm publically available.

there IS a mail system, auction, bank AND shared account bank AND player vendor/store system. character casting voices SUCK but you can change the settings to make them almost unheard. the music is actually pretty good and gets you going.


atm thats all i can think of so i am going to finish my wonderful argentinian red wine and go watch fight club now with andi.

i hope i did answer a few questions and incase i forgot, Heya 8D ./waves


**edit to add a bit
there are also enhancements you can add to armor and weapons, a stigma system (read talent tree), the ability to reskin items to change their appearance, and the ability to purchase items that will allow you to disenchant (to use a wow'ism) an item giving you a power stone (cant remember exact name). you apply that powerstone to your armor and if you succeed (yes it can fail causing a point reduction) you get a +bonus put onto your item. currently cap at +10.

shutting up again

./waves