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Old 06-24-2009, 03:05 PM   #1
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Is going to wipe us off the globe once and for all if we intercept their planned missile launch.

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Old 06-24-2009, 03:46 PM   #2
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And remove the only country that makes the man seem important? Yeah right. Without the U.S. North Korea is just another country. With the U.S. they're a Global Threat! Like he's gonna wipe out his publicist.
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Old 06-24-2009, 08:01 PM   #3
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I think its funny that North Korea still views the US as imperialists.

Also "leading" articles on yahoo are put up to get more views for their search engine and advertisements.
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Old 06-24-2009, 09:23 PM   #4
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And you do not view the US as imperialists?
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Old 06-24-2009, 09:35 PM   #5
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i thought we agreed no politics lol
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Old 06-24-2009, 10:32 PM   #6
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Fuck that. I'm done being quiet.
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Old 06-25-2009, 12:50 AM   #7
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Well the US isn't the dictionary definition of Imperialists, although there is a lot of power imposed over other countries; however, a lot of the ways the US appears as an imperialist is brought by 3rd parties of which associate with the US government. Like the UN in the article. The UN is the one behind the agreement of missile/ballistics testing, although the direct heat of the US desiring to enforce the agreement by the organization that the US participates causes all pressure to fall on the US. Since boarding a North Korean ship is considered a declaration of war it conflicts with being able to enforce the UN sanctioned agreement.

Rather than imperialists in this situation the US apears to be trying to act as a grown up making sure the child doesn't try to sneak a piece of candy since the child is considered diabetic.

Also the yahoo article is very brief on some points.

I may be wrong, but it seems like the Korean government is trying to act as a big player on the board game of the world. Looking into their history .

Also side note, if you want to be inaccurately blunt, i would agree the US is imperialistic.

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Old 06-25-2009, 10:44 AM   #8
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Fuck that. I'm done being quiet.
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Old 06-25-2009, 12:26 PM   #9
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Actually, the definition of imperial covers the position of the US in a number of countries around the globe quite well.

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2: the policy, practice, or advocacy of extending the power and dominion of a nation especially by direct territorial acquisitions or by gaining indirect control over the political or economic life of other areas ; broadly : the extension or imposition of power, authority, or influence
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Old 06-25-2009, 10:22 PM   #10
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We aren't so much, imperialists, as we are megalomaniacs.

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Old 06-26-2009, 03:16 AM   #11
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Well if they wiped out the US then the economy of south korea would die because they would have nobody to buy all their gold.
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Old 06-26-2009, 02:38 PM   #12
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You're thinking China. South Korea has a healthy economy without the US.
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Old 06-26-2009, 02:49 PM   #13
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Originally Posted by Notabear View Post
You're thinking China. South Korea has a healthy economy without the US.
The best day for anyone to conquer South Korea would be the day that Starcraft 2 comes out, they'll probably declare it a national holiday so everyone can take off work to school the round-eyes.
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Old 06-26-2009, 04:00 PM   #14
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Notabear, without the US they wouldn't have our protection and would probably be lol killed by North Korea. Don't they have the largest and strongest army in the entire world or something crazy like that.

Also, the US getting wiped out would have a horrible effect on the global economy, and it would end up hurting North Korea in the long run I think.
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Old 06-26-2009, 04:26 PM   #15
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Don't they have the largest and strongest army in the entire world or something crazy like that.
Woah, put the pipe down!

They do have the 4th largest military behind China, US, and Russia (pending what day). It's easy to recruit when the only people that get to eat are the people that agree to join the army.
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Old 06-26-2009, 04:52 PM   #16
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Originally Posted by Tryst View Post
Actually, the definition of imperial covers the position of the US in a number of countries around the globe quite well.

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2: the policy, practice, or advocacy of extending the power and dominion of a nation especially by direct territorial acquisitions or by gaining indirect control over the political or economic life of other areas ; broadly : the extension or imposition of power, authority, or influence
Can you give some examples within the last 10 years, since this is refering to recent, other than the conflict with Iraq, and the war on "terror" in Afghanistan?

(The reason im saying "other than" is because there are alot of other terms that can be used to more directly label the actions of the US in reference to both events; other than using Imperial.)

Ill admit i might be oblivious to some things, although i would like to know what actions of the US you are directing to that would make you consider the US imperialistic in recent years.

Im not tying to be personally offensive or saying you are right/wrong with your view. Since im sure you have some reasons as to why.

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Old 06-27-2009, 10:49 AM   #17
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talking about American Imperialism is like talking about triangular triangles -Naom Chomsky
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Old 06-27-2009, 11:35 AM   #18
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Ok, a quick list of places to look up.

Haiti, especially in regards to the 2004 rebellion against Aristide and possible US backing of them. Not like Aristide was exactly well liked by the US for a long time.

The Ethiopian invasion of Somalia in 2006 to "save" the US backed government there which has never worked. Included in that are mercenary companies who are most likely backed by the US.

Can look into the recent history of Sudan as well, might cross reference with Uganda, who is looking to the southern oil fields there.

There's also Colombia.

Or you can go through the list of US military bases abroad, there's something over 750 of them in 40 some nations.
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Old 06-27-2009, 02:25 PM   #19
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Old 06-27-2009, 02:27 PM   #20
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Woah, put the pipe down!

They do have the 4th largest military behind China, US, and Russia (pending what day). It's easy to recruit when the only people that get to eat are the people that agree to join the army.
Yeah but our army is scattered all over the world protecting random countries, so we're pretty much defenseless anyway.
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