SW:TOR Faction Poll

Wanton · 08-30-2011, 10:43 AM

Post questions/concerns. We need to have our faction choice finalized before our beta invite goes out or we may have some issues come launch.

Elwyn · 08-30-2011, 11:16 AM

Would want to know how the pvp system works in this game before voting.
Is there pvp on pve servers via arenas like WoW? Any differences aside from PvP anywhere?
Are there 'safe' zones? etc.

Wanton · 08-30-2011, 01:04 PM

I'll talk to you about it offline.

Kizmet · 08-30-2011, 03:54 PM

I voted Empire PVP even tho I don't really care which side we choose I just want to know so I can pick my class. I have a level 18 IA right now and I am gonna try a BH sooner or later. For some reason I don't want/care to play a force sensitive class.

EternalWelcome · 09-05-2011, 04:25 AM

I shouted out for PvE only for a change of pace. Been on a PvP server in various games for years, and was just thinking back on fonder memories of EQ & DaoC when you leveled w/o gankage and PvP'ed when you wanted to. In the end not terribly picky as long as it's Empire side.

Toonattik · 09-07-2011, 10:34 AM

I picked PVP Republic but again i'm not real picky when it comes to faction since the classes tend to Mirror eachother anyways. I'll gladly play a Sith Juggernaught.

Drunklight · 09-09-2011, 09:26 AM

Opposite of what ven wants

Vendrix · 09-09-2011, 10:00 AM

Your mom.

While I do enjoy PvP when I want to PvP, I have found that servers where it's always on are pretty much the pit of MMO civilization. The people, for the most part, are just that much more 'dickish.' For anyone that played WoW and did the random dungeon thing, you knew IMMEDIATELY when you got into a group with people from a PvP server (Warsong, holy shit bad). They say the dumbest things and, in almost every case, are fucking terrible at actually playing the game... but, fuck that, it doesn't stop them from talking shit the entire time.

Here is the difference between a PvP and PvE server:

PvE - Login, do quests and level up. Do dungeons, level up. Hit max level.

PvP - Login, begin doing quests and get ganked by someone 20-30 levels higher than you. Find level 20's group for dungeon, not be able to get in because its guarded by a group of level 40's, die a few times, give up and go back to questing. Hit max level... much later than had you played on a PvE server. Amount of meaningful PvP experience where you/group actually had a chance - zero.

PvP only happens on PvP servers when you're leveling, when you're at a disadvantage (or you take time out of leveling to be the dick killing low level people). At the level cap it then only happens on the rare occasion that you run into another group/raid about to enter the same place you are. I'm withholding my vote until I know more about what type of PvP there will be in the game, with regards to BGs/scenarios and shit like that.

Toonattik · 09-09-2011, 03:04 PM

That pretty much sums it up on PVP servers in other games, again I'm not picky, PVP, PVE, Sith, Republic. only thing I'm picky about is weather I can tank or not on my character :P

Wanton · 09-10-2011, 10:54 PM

Playing Devil's Advocate here, there was about a 2 hour discussion tonight in General chat about Lv50 Republicans camping the zone-ins for some mid-level areas.

So douches can be Jedi too. We may want to discuss this further.

Kizmet · 09-11-2011, 09:27 AM

You are going to have dicks on either side of the game. I think it comes down to weather or not you want to be able to world PVP at any time.

As usual Vendrix makes some good points. how much PVP do we do outside of the Warzones? Like I said before It doesn't really matter to me which side we choose as long as I have some friends to group with as I am already tired of soloing in this game.

Vendrix · 09-11-2011, 02:44 PM

Originally Posted by Wanton

...Lv50 Republicans camping the zone-ins for some mid-level areas.

Fuckin' GOP!

Lockindal · 09-14-2011, 09:38 PM

Good points.

I may change my vote to PVE Empire.
after all, you can still do Warzones and stuff. And I don't have the time I used to to stay "ahead of the curve

Kizmet · 09-16-2011, 04:04 PM

Originally Posted by Lockindal

Good points.

I may change my vote to PVE Empire.
after all, you can still do Warzones and stuff. And I don't have the time I used to to stay "ahead of the curve

I am kinda agreeing with Lockindal on this one also. Vendrix brings up some good points. I haven't really done much world PVP in along time and do enjoy the WZ's.

Toonattik · 09-17-2011, 11:01 PM

ugh, soloing, yeah I'm so tired of it. Anyways I would change my vote to PVE but not sure how :P

Arnwolf · 09-25-2011, 01:12 AM

Refuse to ever play on a pvp server again, but best of luck to you guys.

Vendrix · 09-26-2011, 09:18 AM

Originally Posted by Arnwolf

Refuse to ever play on a pvp server again, but best of luck to you guys.

That's why there is a vote going...

Arnwolf · 09-26-2011, 02:06 PM

Originally Posted by Vendrix

That's why there is a vote going...

And I voted. Just explaining my point of view.

Jex · 09-27-2011, 10:57 AM

Gotta say, I can see where Ven is coming from. In retrospect I'd say I'm on the fence now after initially voting for pvp.

Lockindal · 09-27-2011, 06:01 PM

Wanton, can you redo this poll?

It seems several of us have changed our mind or are now on the fence.

View Poll Results: Which Faction/Server Type
Empire (PvE)	1	50.00%
Republic (PvE)	0	0%
Empire (PvP)	0	0%
Republic (PvP)	0	0%
Don't Care	1	50.00%
Voters: 2. You may not vote on this poll

08-30-2011, 10:43 AM	#1
Wanton Da`Kor Officer Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 395	SW:TOR Faction Poll Post questions/concerns. We need to have our faction choice finalized before our beta invite goes out or we may have some issues come launch. __________________ Zhaos Da`Kor

08-30-2011, 01:04 PM	#3
Wanton Da`Kor Officer Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 395	I'll talk to you about it offline. __________________ Zhaos Da`Kor

09-09-2011, 09:26 AM	#7
Drunklight Da`Kor Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: israel Posts: 1,123	Opposite of what ven wants __________________ Darklight - shaman

09-09-2011, 10:00 AM	#8
Vendrix Da`Kor Officer Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 713	Your mom. While I do enjoy PvP when I want to PvP, I have found that servers where it's always on are pretty much the pit of MMO civilization. The people, for the most part, are just that much more 'dickish.' For anyone that played WoW and did the random dungeon thing, you knew IMMEDIATELY when you got into a group with people from a PvP server (Warsong, holy shit bad). They say the dumbest things and, in almost every case, are fucking terrible at actually playing the game... but, fuck that, it doesn't stop them from talking shit the entire time. Here is the difference between a PvP and PvE server: PvE - Login, do quests and level up. Do dungeons, level up. Hit max level. PvP - Login, begin doing quests and get ganked by someone 20-30 levels higher than you. Find level 20's group for dungeon, not be able to get in because its guarded by a group of level 40's, die a few times, give up and go back to questing. Hit max level... much later than had you played on a PvE server. Amount of meaningful PvP experience where you/group actually had a chance - zero. PvP only happens on PvP servers when you're leveling, when you're at a disadvantage (or you take time out of leveling to be the dick killing low level people). At the level cap it then only happens on the rare occasion that you run into another group/raid about to enter the same place you are. I'm withholding my vote until I know more about what type of PvP there will be in the game, with regards to BGs/scenarios and shit like that. __________________ Vendrix Da `Kor <Ven\|w> someone make Integrity come play near me! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-r0h6yXSq8 <Dowd> wow, that video could have been the worst thing ive ever heard

08-30-2011, 11:16 AM	#2
Elwyn Da`Kor Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 10	Would want to know how the pvp system works in this game before voting. Is there pvp on pve servers via arenas like WoW? Any differences aside from PvP anywhere? Are there 'safe' zones? etc.

08-30-2011, 03:54 PM	#4
Kizmet Da`Kor Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 66	I voted Empire PVP even tho I don't really care which side we choose I just want to know so I can pick my class. I have a level 18 IA right now and I am gonna try a BH sooner or later. For some reason I don't want/care to play a force sensitive class.

09-05-2011, 04:25 AM	#5
EternalWelcome Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3	I shouted out for PvE only for a change of pace. Been on a PvP server in various games for years, and was just thinking back on fonder memories of EQ & DaoC when you leveled w/o gankage and PvP'ed when you wanted to. In the end not terribly picky as long as it's Empire side.

09-07-2011, 10:34 AM	#6
Toonattik Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 18	I picked PVP Republic but again i'm not real picky when it comes to faction since the classes tend to Mirror eachother anyways. I'll gladly play a Sith Juggernaught.

09-09-2011, 03:04 PM	#9
Toonattik Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 18	That pretty much sums it up on PVP servers in other games, again I'm not picky, PVP, PVE, Sith, Republic. only thing I'm picky about is weather I can tank or not on my character :P

09-10-2011, 10:54 PM	#10
Wanton Da`Kor Officer Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 395	Playing Devil's Advocate here, there was about a 2 hour discussion tonight in General chat about Lv50 Republicans camping the zone-ins for some mid-level areas. So douches can be Jedi too. We may want to discuss this further. __________________ Zhaos Da`Kor

09-11-2011, 09:27 AM	#11
Kizmet Da`Kor Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 66	You are going to have dicks on either side of the game. I think it comes down to weather or not you want to be able to world PVP at any time. As usual Vendrix makes some good points. how much PVP do we do outside of the Warzones? Like I said before It doesn't really matter to me which side we choose as long as I have some friends to group with as I am already tired of soloing in this game.

09-11-2011, 02:44 PM	#12
Vendrix Da`Kor Officer Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 713	Originally Posted by Wanton ...Lv50 Republicans camping the zone-ins for some mid-level areas. Fuckin' GOP! __________________ Vendrix Da `Kor <Ven\|w> someone make Integrity come play near me! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-r0h6yXSq8 <Dowd> wow, that video could have been the worst thing ive ever heard

09-14-2011, 09:38 PM	#13
Lockindal Da`Kor Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 16	Good points. I may change my vote to PVE Empire. after all, you can still do Warzones and stuff. And I don't have the time I used to to stay "ahead of the curve

09-16-2011, 04:04 PM	#14
Kizmet Da`Kor Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 66	Originally Posted by Lockindal Good points. I may change my vote to PVE Empire. after all, you can still do Warzones and stuff. And I don't have the time I used to to stay "ahead of the curve I am kinda agreeing with Lockindal on this one also. Vendrix brings up some good points. I haven't really done much world PVP in along time and do enjoy the WZ's.

09-17-2011, 11:01 PM	#15
Toonattik Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 18	ugh, soloing, yeah I'm so tired of it. Anyways I would change my vote to PVE but not sure how :P

09-25-2011, 01:12 AM	#16
Arnwolf Da`Kor Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 83	Refuse to ever play on a pvp server again, but best of luck to you guys.

09-26-2011, 09:18 AM	#17
Vendrix Da`Kor Officer Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 713	Originally Posted by Arnwolf Refuse to ever play on a pvp server again, but best of luck to you guys. That's why there is a vote going... __________________ Vendrix Da `Kor <Ven\|w> someone make Integrity come play near me! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-r0h6yXSq8 <Dowd> wow, that video could have been the worst thing ive ever heard

09-26-2011, 02:06 PM	#18
Arnwolf Da`Kor Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 83	Originally Posted by Vendrix That's why there is a vote going... And I voted. Just explaining my point of view.

09-27-2011, 10:57 AM	#19
Jex Da`Kor Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 201	Gotta say, I can see where Ven is coming from. In retrospect I'd say I'm on the fence now after initially voting for pvp.

09-27-2011, 06:01 PM	#20
Lockindal Da`Kor Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 16	Wanton, can you redo this poll? It seems several of us have changed our mind or are now on the fence.

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